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Advanced Technology In Society—It Happened Earlier Than You Think!

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Advanced Technology In Society—It Happened Earlier Than You Think!

By John Van Auken


While traditional scientists continue to reject the idea that technologically advanced societies existed, there is evidence to support the theory that amid the primitive humans and the earliest cultures, pockets of high sophistication could be found. Here are some examples.

Tamil Palm Leaf circa 300 BC

The so-called "Palm Leaf Manuscripts" of 5th-century BC, contain records of flying machines! Some of these flying vehicles were said to be able to "mount up to Surya mandala," meaning the solar region and the planets! And still others could go to the "Naksatra mandala," which is the region of the stars, the galaxy! One of the palm leaf manuscripts found in India is the Amsu Bodhini, which contains very detailed information about the planets. The information is so specific that only someone who actually traveled to the planets or sent flying machines to them could know these details. The information includes the different kinds of light, heat, color, and electromagnetic fields of the various planets, including Earth. And it also contains information about the methods used to construct machines capable of attracting solar rays and separating this energy into its components (as Cayce said the Atlanteans did with their crystals). It also includes instructions for the manufacture of machines to transport people to other planets. Amazingly, it details unknown alloys that the ancients used to construct invisible flying crafts-the human eye cannot see these alloys.


The Ramayana (Rama's Journey) is a Sanskrit epic poem (like Homer's Iliad and Odyssey) ascribed to the Hindu sage and Sanskrit poet Valmiki 5th to 4th-century BC, and he wrote: "The Pushpaka chariot that resembles the Sun and belongs to my brother was brought by the powerful Ravana; that aerial and excellent chariot going everywhere at will...that chariot resembling a bright cloud in the sky...and the King [Rama] got in, and the excellent chariot at the command of the Raghira, rose up into the higher atmosphere." 

Cayce explained to a reincarnated Atlantean: "The entity was in the Atlantean land, during those periods particularly when there was the exodus from Atlantis owing to those activities which were bringing about the destructive forces. There we find the entity was among those who were not only in what is now known as the Yucatan land, but also the Pyrenees and the Egyptian. For the manners of transportation, the manners of communications through the airships of that period were such as Ezekiel described of a much later date." (1859-1, my italics)

And Cayce corroborated the strange alloys of the ancient sophisticates: "The metals that were used as the braces, these were the combinations then of what is now a lost art-the tempered brass, the temperament of that as becomes between aluminum (as now called) and that of uranium, with those of the fluxes that are from those of the combined elements of the iron, that is carbonized with those of other fluxes-see? These made for lightness of structure, non-conductor or conductors of the electrical forces-that were used for the impelling of same, rather than the gases-which were used as the lifting. See? For that as in the Nature's forces may be turned into even the forces of that that makes life, as given, from the sun rays to those elements that make for, or find corresponding reaction in their application of same, or reflection of same, to the rays itself-or a different or changed form of storage of force, as called electrical in the present." (364-6)

Aliens Playing a Role?

Now some researchers/writers have suggested that aliens may have played a significant role in humanity's evolution, and Cayce appears to agree: "The entity was among the priestesses of the Mayan experience. It was just before that period when those as from the east had come, and there were the beginnings of the unfoldments of the understanding that there were other portions of the same land, or those that were visiting from other worlds or planets." (1616-1, my italics)



In this next Cayce reading he indicates that we people of Earth are eventually going to meet "people of the universe": "Man may become, with the people of the universe, ruler of any of the various spheres through which the soul passes in its experiences. Hence, as the cycles pass, as the cycles are passing, when there is come a time, a period of readjusting in the spheres, (as well as in the little earth, the little soul)…" (281-16) 

And as for us actively existing prior to incarnating into matter and getting trapped in the evolution up through matter, he gave this reading: "As it has been often presented by one school of thought, the dwellers upon the Moon (the satellite of the earth) preceded the abilities for matter (expressed in a form that is known as matter in the earth). And this entity was among those that so dwelt, and is influenced by two sojourns there [on the moon]." (264-31, EC's parentheses, my italics)


This blog was excerpted from the article Two Suns in Our Solar System! as published in the July-September, 2015 issue of Venture Inward Venture Inward is an A.R.E. Membership premium. Members may access Venture Inward online.

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John Van Auken  137x170 pxJohn Van Auken is a director at Edgar Cayce’s A.R.E., and is one of the organization’s most popular speakers, traveling throughout the U.S. and abroad to address audiences on the body-mind-spirit topics found in the Edgar Cayce readings. He is an acknowledged expert on the Cayce readings, the Bible, ancient prophecies, world religions, meditation, and ancient Egypt. He writes Venture Inward's Ancient Mysteries column and is the author of several books, including Edgar Cayce on the Spiritual Forces Within YouFrom Karma to Grace and Edgar Cayce and the Kabbalah.

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The Story Behind the Fort Dearborn Massacre

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The Story Behind
the Fort Dearborn Massacre
By John Fuhler

Taken out of context, the Fort Dearborn massacre was a notorious attack perpetrated by several groups of Indians against white settlers, including women and children. But this fifteen minute skirmish represents only one of a myriad battles in the War of 1812. The roots of the Fort Dearborn massacre, however, run much deeper.

Tomahawks- War of 1812

More than four dozen readings provide details for the events around and about Fort Dearborn at the time of the August 15, 1812 massacre. Often the information provided by the readings concurs with historical data; and sometimes it does not.

With the passage of the Northwest Ordinance in 1787, the United States designated the land south of the Great Lakes, East of the Mississippi River, and north of the Ohio River as Indian territory. The ordinance specifically prohibited white settlement in the Northwest Territory. Although the United States recognized a limited sovereignty of the resident tribes, many settlers, land speculators and even state governments treated the Indians as obstacles to be removed.i In effect, the Northwest Ordinance became a tool to promote aggressive settlement in the territory, guaranteeing the displacement of entire tribes and the demise of any hope of a permanent confederacy of Indian nations. The recognition of that potentiality had motivated the great Shawnee leader, Tecumseh, to strive to unify as many tribes as possible to realize that dream. It also led him to align his warriors with the British in the War of 1812. It is almost certainly Tecumseh's "Rebellion" to which reading 3003-1 refers:

…the entity was in the land…in what is now…Dearborn, when there was the fleeing of many from the Fort because of the uprising through that portion of the land.
(Edgar Cayce Reading 3003-1)

Native American War 1812

At the time of the massacre, the Potawatomi controlled a territory extending across northern Indiana, northern Illinois, and in central and eastern Wisconsin. The only parcel within that territory not under their sovereign authority was the six square miles at the mouth of the Chicago River ceded to the United States in 1795.ii Against this backdrop, then, unfolded the events of that horrid summer morning.

…the entity was in that land…during those periods when there were the settlings in the land, and particularly in those adjacent lands to what is now Fort Dearborn…
(Edgar Cayce Reading 823-1)

Fort Dearborn's captain, Nathan Heald, wrote that his decision to destroy the ammunitions, arms, and alcohol triggered the attack that day.iii On August 13, 1812, he had met with representatives of the Potawatomi in order to discuss the distribution of the stores that the troops would leave behind. Entity [342] was apparently privy to these discussions:

The entity was among the peoples of the north country…seeing how there might be brought about the taking of all that was then in possession of the post…without the formality of returning an exchange for same…
(Edgar Cayce Reading 342-2)

But the readings cite another and probably more important reason for the attacks:

…in that land…during those periods when those frontiers were being defended by those peoples who entered into the land to possess same… (Edgar Cayce Reading 2123-2)

…the entity was in that land…during those periods when there were the settlings in the land, and particularly in those adjacent lands to what is now Fort Dearborn…
(Edgar Cayce Reading 823-1)

It was the encroachment of white settlers in the land that triggered the assault that day. History records at least 50 dead, 42 captured, ransomed or released, 12 rescued and five escaped.iv Seventeen readings specifically refer to escapees, captives, or massacre victims.v

War of 1812

Both the readings and history record the remarkable fact that the Indians permitted traders to remain in the land. Apparently the Indians placed great value on these relationships.

…the entity was in the land…when there were…people being driven from Fort Dearborn...among those in the trading business…While others fled, the entity made peace – and later became a part of an activity for the building up farther to the west.
(Edgar Cayce Reading 3581-1)

One trader, John Kinzie, whose trade depot occupied the north bank of the Chicago River opposite the fort, faced imminent death. The Potawatomi had occupied his house and were threatening to slaughter him and his family, when Sauganash, (aka, Billy Caldwell), son of a British officer, interceded to save their lives.vi

On August 16, 1812 the Indians burned the Fort.vii

…the entity was in the land now known as…Dearborn…during those periods of turmoils and strifes as brought about the destroying, or destruction, or warring upon the old fort.
(Edgar Cayce Reading 2385-1)

There were no victors in the War of 1812, from a material perspective, but the Indians were certainly the biggest losers. From a spiritual perspective, some of the entities there gained through their heroic attempts to save and protect those around them. Some gained in their attempts to promote peace and harmonious relationships. Others created their own personal hells through self-recrimination. And still others lost due to their selfishness. Materially speaking, many of those involved lost, if not their lives, then their resources. Some of those who received readings continued to bear the emotional scars. Only a few came away relatively unscathed.

John Fuhler Blog 072-013John Fuhler has been involved in the field of alternative medicine for more than 25 years. He received his BA in anthropology from the University of Illinois and studied in Glasgow, Scotland, and Portland, Ore. As an amateur archaeologist, he participated in projects in Ariz., Calif., Hawaii, N.M., and Wis.; reporting discoveries in Ore. and Scotland. His tribal affiliations include: Saxon, Friesian, Bohemian, Irish (O'Meagher clan), and Wyandot. He volunteers his skills with organizations supporting the homeless, forest services, and families. He enjoys reading the bible in Greek and Latin.



 Photos courtesy of the John Fuhler

i Waldman, C. 1985. Atlas of the North American Indian. Facts on File, Inc.: New York, p. 190; Hickey, D.R. 2012. The War of 1812: A Forgotten Conflict. University of Illinois Press: Urbana, IL, p. 66.
ii Waldman, op. cit., map 7.
iii'[Letter from] Nathan Health to Thomas A. Cushing, October 23rd, 1812' in The War of 1812: Writings from America's Second War of Independence. D.R. Hickey (Ed.). Library Classics of the United States, Inc. New York, p. 102.
iv 'Muster Roll of Fort Dearborn'. In Genealogy Trails. 2006-7. Torp, K. (transcriber). http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/1001.html.
v See, for example, 340-15, 587-3, 2537-1, 2123-2, 1995-1, 2530-1, 2641-1, 3135-1, and 3360-1. The twelve readings referring to John Bainbridge have not been included based on the information provided by 1523-4, in which it is stated "…the entity was…with [[294]…and became one to whom EVERYONE came for counsel…that gave strength of many of the hearts of those who later became a part of the defense of the land in 1812."
vi 'Shaubena's Adventure at Chicago'. In Genealogy Trails, op. cit.
viiGrossman, Ron. '15 minutes that shaped a city'. Chicago Tribune. August 12, 2012.  

The Majestic Southwest: A Place for Dreams

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The Majestic Southwest: A Place for Dreams
Donald B. Carroll

Mesa_VerdeMany know of the fascinating readings of Edgar Cayce that speak of the American Southwest’s cliff dwellers. The readings called this area the land of “Og” and located it on the Colorado plateau, exactly where you will find such places as Bandelier, Chaco Canyon, and Mesa Verde. The readings also describe the injection and influence on this ancient ancestral Puebloan civilization (formerly called the Anasazi) from several different areas. Such influences came from immigrants escaping the sinking of Lemuria and Poseidia (Atlantis), the Lost Tribes and even “Og” sending representatives to an ancient world council to discuss the threat of huge animals still roaming the earth. The readings even speak of connections with cultures in the Yucatan, which archeologists have recently confirmed with evidence found at Chaco Canyon. I personally enjoy the reading below (1144-2) that tells of connections of the cliff dwellers, through Poseidia, to immigrants into the area of the Pyrenees. Interestingly, some 25,000 years ago, in that portion of Europe, there existed a people called the Solutrean Culture, identified by their unique arrowheads. The arrowheads, which have been found up and down the East Coast of the United States, are similar to the Solutrean arrowheads, causing some to speculate that those European immigrants are the same peoples.

Besides the historical information given in the readings, there is another aspect to these readings that is just as important and something that was personally experienced in New Mexico by Edgar Cayce himself! This is an area of the world that one may experience or re-experience in dreams and visions. Some examples from the readings:

In the one before this we find in that land known as the land of Og, now known as that of the American plateaus, or in north portion of now New Mexico, and such…


Q. Will the entity be able to use the knowledge she obtained in New Mexico, and how will she be able to recall this knowledge?


A. In dream! (993-2)


Hence the entity was among the daughters of the Law of One, being a priestess of the temple in the Poseidian land; among those that went to the Egyptian land with those peoples for the establishing of the associations; also visiting those that established themselves in now the Pyrenees—or the eastern portion of the continental Europe, and those that established themselves in what is now known as a portion of America—in Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, and those portions of the land.


Hence all of these lands have their influence in the experience of the entity, and there may be—through those periods of the deeper meditation, the periods of thought—the periods when the entity may through the mystic forces, in which there is the innate interest in the present, become more and more aware of the motivative forces of the Law of One, or of the Creative Force and its relationships to the souls of men and women in their experience through the earthly sojourn. (1144-2)


…in that portion of the land now known as Utah and New Mexico. Would the entity vision much of that portion of those lands lying in the southern portions of that land, and those of the Arizona and New Mexico lands, much as a dream would come to the entity. (358-3)

Now let me share Edgar’s experience of a dream/vision and manifestation when he spent about a month in these same areas.

dreaming-mindQ. Please elucidate upon the experience I had last month in New Mexico when seeing and talking with my mother, in which she materialized a silver dollar.


A. As has been given, either by vision, by prayer, by Urim, by Thummin, by dream, or in the material things, may the vision of those that are in the heart and mind of individuals given through the powers of those in the spirit plane to enter into association, communication, or activity with those that they seek to guide.


Here we find for the first, that has long been sought between mother and son, that of communication concerning those things that deal with the mysteries of life and of those things that may bring to bear in the experiences of all, and how that there may be used those things of materiality for the representing of the spiritual. (294-174)

What an incredible experience—an experience whose generation seemed to be assisted by this majestic, magical, and mystical area of the American Southwest.

The A.R.E. Travel Program tours this area every few years—including a trip to New Mexico and Mesa Verde in the fall of 2015 (see EdgarCayce.org/tours for details). I hope you can join me so that we may share and dream together.

don_carrollDon Carroll spent his career working in Fire & Rescue, as a district chief, academy instructor, and paramedic. During those 30 years, he raised a family and pursued the meaning of life through extended study into the Cayce readings and other spiritual, scientific, and philosophical materials. Today, Carroll is a regular speaker and writer of metaphysical topics from the Cayce perspective. He spent 10 years researching and writing his latest work, Sacred Geometry and Spiritual Symbolism: The Blueprint for Creation. Carroll is also an international tour leader for A.R.E., visiting sites of a spiritual nature across the globe. His website is DonaldBCarroll.com.

More Evidence for Atlantean Descendants in the United States

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More Evidence for Atlantean Descendants
in the United States
By John Fuhler

On July 13, 1936, Edgar Cayce gave a reading for a woman whom he told, "The entity then was among the people, the Indians, of the Iroquois; those of noble birth, those that were of the pure descendants of the Atlanteans…" (1219–1)

But the readings identified another group of North American Indians as descendants of Atlanteans, as well.

…in the experience before this we find the entity was in that land about Fort Dearborn, during those periods when there were the attempts of many to gain a greater understanding by the spiritual concepts and teachings to those of the greater nations – the Red Men; or those of the Atlanteans that had come to these portions of the land…Yet when turmoils and strifes arose, and those periods when there were the gathering of all the nations of these peoples… ( Edgar Cayce Reading #3823–1)

The events described in this reading occurred in the Old Northwest during the period 1809–1813, when Tecumseh, with British support and encouragement, led a confederation of Indians to defend their territories from the encroachment of the settlers. Though historical documents indicate a number of tribes participated in the skirmishes, the residents about Fort Dearborn consisted primarily of several bands of Potawatomi, a tribe of Algonquian Indians closely related to the Ottawa and Ojibwa. These three tribes, all residents of regions about and between the western Great Lakes, had only recently split up, having originally been one unified nation. In other words, in the context of the reading, the Potawatomi were Atlantean descendants.

Fort Dearborn
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Engraving showing Fort Dearborn, Chicago, Illinois, as it appeared in 1831

The family of languages to which the Potawatomi, Ottawa, and Ojibwa languages belong is intimately related to the Afro-Asiatic family of languages.i Interestingly enough, these same populations share a genetic relationship, as well. The greatest frequency of one particular genetic trait, mitochondrial haplogroup X2 (hereafter mt hap X2), among North American Indians occurs in the Ojibwa Indians (25%). And the greatest occurrence of mt hap X2 in Eurasia is among the Druze of southern Lebanon and northern Israel (11%). The purest expression of mt hap X2 in North America occurs in one particular Ojibwa subject, whose closest genetic relatives according to this marker are members of Mediterranean populations, rather than any other Indian subject found in North America! This is true in spite of the thousands of years and thousands of miles that separate them.ii

The American mt hap X2 data reveal several other very important facts: two separate waves of populations bearing the genetic marker migrated to North America. The first wave of immigration occurred before or around the last glacial maximum, with a coalescence time of 23,000–36,000 years before present; and the second wave with a coalescence time of 12,000–17,000 years before present.iii

At least one Ojibwa subject belongs to the first migration to America of mt hap X2 populations. By inference, other Algonquian speaking Indians do, as well. The readings confirm the coalescence date revealed by the geneticists:

…the entity was in Atlantis when there was the second period of disturbance – which would be some twenty-two thousand, five hundred (22,500) before the periods of the Egyptian activity covered by the Exodus; or it was some twenty-eight thousand (28,000) before Christ, see? (470–22)

The readings also state the Eastern Seaboard was among the lowlands of Atlantis. (364–13) The Atlanteans would only have had to relocate to the coastal areas to arrive at their new home when the rest of the continent went under.

Linguists corroborate these data. The distribution of Algonquian languages in North America indicates the place of origin, based on the diversity of Algonquian dialects, between Long Island Sound and Cape Cod, Massachusetts. One might argue this place of origin extended from the Albemarle Sound in North Carolina to Cape Cod, but European encroachment in those areas render available data less reliable.iv Also, the relative distributions of Algonquian languages reveal a pattern consistent with the gradual occupation of unoccupied lands vacated by the receding glaciers.v Thus, the distribution of the Algonquian languages, as well as the mt hap X2 coalescence times, establish the "arrival" of these Indians in North America to be about the time of the last glacial maximum.

map Algonquian languages
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Map showing Algonquin Dialects
Source: John Fuhler

Linguists have hypothesized the relationship between the Algonquian and Afro-Asiatic language families, but their model that explains this relationship contradicts the genetic evidence. That paradigm requires a trans-Beringia, or trans-Pacific route to account for the similarities between the two families.vi The genetic data disprove this, however. Those who maintain the mt hap X2 evidence found in the Tunguska Basin in western Siberia and the Altai Mountains of western Mongolia represent the founder source of American mt hap X2 ignore the fact that the coalescence time required for these Asian data is only 6,700 years. In other words, the American mt hap X2 was already in America a minimum of 5,300 years before that genetic marker arrived in Central Asia! So, at this time, conventional scholarship cannot explain the genetic or linguistic data. The readings, however, provide answers that the scholars lack.

John Fuhler Blog 072-013John Fuhler has been involved in the field of alternative medicine for more than 25 years. He received his BA in anthropology from the University of Illinois and studied in Glasgow, Scotland, and Portland, Ore. As an amateur archaeologist, he participated in projects in Ariz., Calif., Hawaii, N.M., and Wis.; reporting discoveries in Ore. and Scotland. His tribal affiliations include: Saxon, Friesian, Bohemian, Irish (O'Meagher clan), and Wyandot. He volunteers his skills with organizations supporting the homeless, forest services, and families. He enjoys reading the bible in Greek and Latin.



i Fuhler, J.T. Occasional Papers of the Epigraphic Society. 2007. Vol. 25. pp59ff.
ii ii Brown, et al. mtDNA Haplogroup X: An Ancient Link between Europe/Western Asia and North America? Am J Hum Genet 1998 October 63:1852-1861; Reidia, et al. Origins and Diffusion of mtDNA Haplogroup X. Am J Hum Genet 2003 November 73(5):1178-1190 (Published online Oct 20, 2003: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/issues/120394/).
iiiBrown, et al. op. cit. p. 1859.
iv Silver, S. and Miller, W.R. (1997) American Indian Languages: Cultural and Social Contexts. University of Arizona Press: Tucson. 320.
v Parker, A. Glacial Geography and Native American Languages. Quaternary Research 23, 130-137 (1985).
vi Ruhlen, M. (1994). The Origin of Language: Tracing the Evolution of the Mother Tongue. John Wiley and Sons, Inc: New York. Fig. 10; pp. 153–4.

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